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mrfig



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: bottom end Reply with quote

whats up gearheads? was wondering how manny of you are running superchargers with stock bottom ends want to know if i can get away with it. dont plan on racing just want to Question have some fun once in awhile
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what kinda psi you have in mind?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the procharger HO system its 10psi
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont the HO kits come with aftercoolers?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea it does the basic set up states complete and installed on a stock engine just wondering how long it will stay together like i said not going to be hard on it just want that extra power on tap. so i was wondering if anyone was running a stock bottom end with there supercharger and how its holding up.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that would be safe. Rule of thumb for no inter/after cooler is 8 psi but thats not set in stone. So if it does have the after cooler then you should be safe. What year Mustang do you have?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its an 06 with 38,000 on it
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twinscrw and Stang910 both have GTs like that with superchargers on stock bottom ends, but both of them are also running Whipple twinscrew units. If i could redo my setup now id get an 05-09 GT and put either a Kenny Bell or Whipple on it. Both Speed junkie and Towgunner have Pro Chargers but Speed Junkie has a built motor and Towgunner has a DOHC motor. Im about to run 8 psi of non aftercooled boost to my car but its a 2v motor. Im sure some of the professionals will get on tonight and give you all the info you need.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info i will check back tomorrow its 1am here right now i need to get some sleep.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am on a Saleen with 8-9lb of boost.

Consevative Tune. I make right at 400hp.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does this kit come with the P1SC?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i foregot about you Capt. Dave. Does Saleen make their own blowers or is it another unit with a Saleen name tag on it?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is their's.....It works different than any other one I have ever seen or read about.

http://www.saleen.com/supercharger.htm

The blower assembly contains twin screws, which push 2300 cc of air per rotation As a result, the supercharger turns slower for equivalent boost, producing lower stress and lower air charge temperatures. The higher supercharger efficiency, along with the lower air charge temperatures, allows for an intercooler that is smaller, lighter and more compact and which has virtually zero pressure drop from inlet-to-outlet side.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm running a stock bottom end and its holding up just fine and I'm in the throttle every chance I get. If you want it to be a street car I'd recommend a twinscrew over a centri. How often on the street will you be able to run it to redline? On the street I can out accelerate about anything without taking it over 3000 rpms and that instant torque is awesome. The procharger is still a great setup and sounds great also so either way its a win win situation. Your bottom end should hold up just fine with a perfect tune and the rule of thumb is 450rwhp is the safe zone even though most are very close to 500rwhp on 10psi and running strong. You should be prepared for a built engine though since there will be no guarantee.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperDan wrote:
i foregot about you Capt. Dave. Does Saleen make their own blowers or is it another unit with a Saleen name tag on it?


Yes Saleen builds their superchargers in house, but doesn't nesacarrily manufacture all the parts.
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