So a friend of mine...

Agent007 · Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject: So a friend of mine...

...So I have this friend who is thinking about purchasing a small single turbo and intercooler to put on his S197 V6. He will be accumulating all the essentials over a period of about a year or sooner if possible. What type of wastegate, BOV, Injectors, and fuel pump would the experts reccomend for, lets say, 8 Psi? Any information would be necessary due to the fact that he will be putting it together as a do it yourself project.
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Joey · Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject:

I don't know about a sixxer, but a stock GT bottom end will hold 9lbs safely
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6Stang99 · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:33 am Post subject:

I know guys with S197 sixxers that have been running up to 10lbs of boost for a couple years now with no problems. I think most are sitting around 8 or 9 though.
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ricanstang · Smokin' Tires Joined: Oct 09, 2008 Posts: 2480

id say 8 or 9 too, just from what ive read in other forums.
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hardlivewire · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:18 am Post subject:

i would say 9 just not to push... most stock motors would be on borrowed time around 10-11 psi

SuperDan · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:25 am Post subject:

im pushin 10 psi. Isn't the bottom end on S197 sixxers stronger than past ones? seems like i heard Jeff and Stacey talkin bout that at Hooters. But not real sure what size injectors would be needed, some cooler plugs, a better flowin fuel pump, piping, and a tuner would need i know.
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SpeedJunky · Laying Rubber Joined: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 1376

I don't know anything about the S197s but safe assumptions would be:
If the tank is comparable to the GT's I would say a GT supercar pump, 39 or 42# injectors (depending which is easier for him to find), he could use a 35mm tial wastegate (don't need anything huge), new mass air (once again I don't know what's out that's good for the S197s), exhaust manifolds and hot side piping, cool side piping and intercooler, a couple of v-band clamps and a bunch of silicon couplers with t-bolt clamps (depending on the size piping he runs, usually 2-1/2 to 3"). Usually one heat range cooler plugs to prevent detonation. A tuner will be needed; depending who he desides to tune it will determine the manufacturer he will need to go with. Some other supporting mods that help are boost/vacuum gauge, fuel pressure gauge and at least 1 wideband gauge for monitoring in case something goes wrong.
There are probably other concerns specific to the S197s but these are the general ones when installing a power adder.

SuperDan · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject:

it's just hard to say with a V6. Best bet is to prob get 6Stang99 to check on some of those V6 forums he talks about (or get with him and find out what they are).

6Stang99 · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject:

Any questions you have about the S197 V6 could more than likely get answered on the MustangCollective.com. It started out as the 4.0Collective.com, but they changed the name because a bunch of people, such as myself, joined with different body styles. There's people running all different set ups from stock, up to 11 second 4.0's. Ask a question, and you should hopefully get an answer fairly quickly. Or just tell me exactly what you want me to ask and I'll go ask for you.
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stang910 · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:40 pm Post subject:

Speedjunky pretty much got it right, but I'd go with 60lb injectors. The 4.0's should handle 12-13 psi which would put that car around 400-450rwhp. If it'll be beat on at the track with sticky tires the entire drivetrain will be on borrowed time with that kind of power though.

SuperDan · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:55 pm Post subject:

i dont think the turbo he's lookin at will make that much boost. 5-8 psi is just a ball park figure for that setup. But with 4.30 gears, is a power adder the way to go?

Agent007 · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject:

...my friend knows that he will have to bump back up to around 3.55's...just so happens, he has a spare set layin around!
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Agent007 · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject:

swervo · Dangerous Joined: Aug 19, 2008 Posts: 669 Location: SoCal

You want to go with a lower gear ie 3.55, 3.27s etc. It's not giving it enough time to spool up, but putting more of a load on the engine to help them spool up.


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