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outcrydrummer Laying Rubber

Joined: Aug 03, 2010 Posts: 1083 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: N/A numbers guess with the new stroker short block |
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Trying to justify this to the wife and myself lol. Hoping to get this done first of the year. Anyways I'm going to end up getting the stroker short block from brenspeed. Compression should be 10:1 when its all said and done.
Any idea what kind of numbers to expect N/A after the install. I can make 350rwhp n/a easy now with the mods I have. Just not sure what the extra compression and cubic inches will really bring. _________________
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Agent007 Site Admin


Joined: Dec 22, 2009 Posts: 3864 Location: Long Creek, NC
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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this would be a good one for stang910 to weigh in _________________ 13.03@104.9 mph. ARH LT's, MAC O/R Prochamber, FRPP 4.10's Moroso Spiral Flows, GT500 STB. |
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outcrydrummer Laying Rubber

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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'm just really curious as to what it would bring. I'm trying to justify spending like 6 grand on this lol. _________________
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outcrydrummer Laying Rubber

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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well it would be with all the mods I have on now. Basically everything else would be the same besides the added compression and new found displacement. Eventually it will be met with some livernois heads and a new intake but for the first year or two just the stroker short block and a 175shot of nitrous _________________
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hardlivewire Site Admin


Joined: Jun 18, 2009 Posts: 7018 Location: Swansboro
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| whats the stoke gonna be and displacement |
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outcrydrummer Laying Rubber

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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well I"'m not completely sold on any one stroker kit. I know they make a 289 and 302 kit. I also thought about just going ahead and putting a new forged rotating assembly in. If I did that I would put diamond flat tops and some manley h rods with arp2000's and a kellog crank probably.
The only reason I want to do a shortblock stroker is cause the labor is so rediculous for a rotating assembly. If I could get a rotating assembly done for less then a stroker shortblock I would do that. But people want like 4 grand just to install a rotating assembly and like 2500-3k for a shortblock.
Any advice or info would be great. If I could get a decently priced rotating assembly and find a place that wouldn't charge me my newborn to install it I would do that.
I'm really not deadset on stroking the block or having the extra cubes. I really just need to bump up my internals to hold some extra hp and bump up the compression a bit for my nitrous build. _________________
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outcrydrummer Laying Rubber

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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Oh and shark yeah I could teach you how to drum lol. But that would all depend on your kit or mine. My electric kit is all packed up and still in AZ. I haven't actually been for real playing for a year or two. Course after 12 years of playing percussion I'm sure the ability is not lost on me lol _________________
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hardlivewire Site Admin


Joined: Jun 18, 2009 Posts: 7018 Location: Swansboro
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| if your going with the 302 i would guess you would be in the 400-425 range.... think about the new 5.0 its rated at 425 engine wise stock... it basically would be a 3v 5.0 with extras i would say 430 max n/a tho |
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outcrydrummer Laying Rubber

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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thats more then I am expecting to be honest. If I pulled 400rwhp n/a that would be perfect for me. I'm trying to push her past the 550rwhp range. I figure with 400 at the wheels n/a a 175hp pill on the nitrous should clear my goal with some torque to spare
430rwhp would just be an added bonus _________________
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stang910 Smokin' Tires

Joined: Nov 02, 2008 Posts: 3066 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Your not gonna get 400 with stock heads unless your on a generous dyno. My guess is your gonna put down about 20-25 more horsepower with the bump in compression and extra stroke. Low and midrange torque #'s should be a nice improvement though. My advice for you is to give Blake a call at Holcomb and see what he'll put together for you. |
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outcrydrummer Laying Rubber

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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Right on.
If I could get the guys at holcomb to do a forged rotating assembly for me for a fair price I'd probably do that and save the extra cash for a nice set of livernois heads and more aggressive cams to go with the heads and new rotating assembly.
What do you think the same bore and stroke rotating assembly would do for hp just with a compression jump to say 10.7:1 _________________
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stang910 Smokin' Tires

Joined: Nov 02, 2008 Posts: 3066 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| If you really want to build it all motor and have really good gains you should probably do a big bore with a 3.75" stroke. This combo makes 322 cid. Your gonna pay for it though. I'll be honest with you since your trying to save a little money here and there to make this affordable you should probably be happy with what you have. The built shortblock is just the beginning of this very expensive project. |
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BLaCK06V6 Parts Changer

Joined: Apr 27, 2010 Posts: 199 Location: Richlands NC
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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The more and more i dig the more and more expensive this hobby gets, but its so fun and addicting. _________________ I got rid of my v6 and got the GT. Now this is my new toy. |
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outcrydrummer Laying Rubber

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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Well thats the issue lol. I'm not happy with what I have. I need to surpass that 550 marker or I'll never be happy with the car.
I know its super expensive either way. Just trying to figure out the cheapest way to do it. I will be running at least a 175hp shot of nitrous on the setup too, so won't be all motor.
My plans were to do either the rotating assembly or the shortblock and fuel system. Then bump up the spray to 175hp shot and see where I was at numbers wise. If I fell short I was going to start saving for a set of heads and cams and see where that left me. _________________
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stang910 Smokin' Tires

Joined: Nov 02, 2008 Posts: 3066 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| Have you considered dropping a GT500 engine in? Don't know what they're going for now, but its the easiest way to meet your goal. |
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