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stang910
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject: Chit chat about FI Reply with quote

Tossing around the idea of putting a twin screw on the Cobra or even the hellraiser kit. What's everyone's opinion on what I should get. Thinking about KB 2.8H, Whipple 2.9L, or the Hellion Hellraiser. The KB and Whipple are about the same price, but the Hellraiser kit is $7500 which is almost what I paid for the whole car so I'm not liking that idea. If I do upgrade my FI I'm leaning towards the 2.9L Whipple right now. What does everybody else think?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would think just a twinscrew bt whatever you do i might want that eaton... lol
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tt cobra would sick but there is so many little parts that go along with it so it just kinda come down KB or whipple in my opinion and id have to pick the KB have you looked the 2.8lc?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah and if I spend that kinda money on a supercharger I'm gonna get the hellraiser kit. The screw blowers I'm looking at are under $4000.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$7500 is without any upgrades, they are sick though, some guys don't agree with the compound boost idea.

The 2.8 is a proven performer.

I have only seen one set of numbers for a 2.9 on a Cobra and that was a built motor, with cams, making 19#, it made 727 hp, no one has posted any numbers of stock motor yet, hell Whipple doesn't even list it on their website for the 03/04's still. I emailed Jared at Lethal over a week ago since they are the largest Whipple Dealer in the country and have gotten no response on what they actually make for power. Have seen 5.4's making over 640 hp at 14 lbs of boost. Whipple gives a 5% discount to Military too.

Another option is always the Lysholm 3.3 it fits under a stock hood too.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardlivewire wrote:
i would think just a twinscrew bt whatever you do i might want that eaton... lol


You'll need alot more then you think to put a factory eaton on your car, but if your wanting to do it you can get the eaton.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea i know... travis listed some of the stuff i would need once... Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kenny or whip would be best route but it really depends on what your plans for the car are. Full track car? For a street car I would use a twinscrew for sho. Turbo's are nice but for daily driving your not going to get into boost often unless your drive to work includes a highway. Then again with compound boost there is no lag soooooo?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah 2.8lc are expensive it kinda of coin toss between the two and chris has a point with compound boost
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the only 2.9 Whipple installed on a Cobra that I know of, at least 5 people on SVTP claim to have bought them over the past 3.5 months but no one has posted numbers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOebjiyn-aI
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I was just on SVT P and saw that vid, was about to post it but you beat me to it!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy also has a 2.9

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/engine-tuning-214/737447-2-9-whipple-installed-tuned.html
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what's Heater running on his Termi? he's told me before but i cant remember
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:36 am    Post subject: kb Reply with quote

I've always liked the kb. Never heard any complaints but saw really good numbers, on paper and on the track. I would have to say kb.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperDan wrote:
what's Heater running on his Termi? he's told me before but i cant remember


I have a 2.3 Whipple.


I thought about putting a bigger blower on the car at one time; but from what I had read/researched a bigger blower on a stock engine is not as efficient as a smaller blower. Now when you bump up engine size, or push the boost up then the bigger blowers start to shine.

A friend of mine had a KB 2.8 Mammoth with a stock motor. It made real good numbers on the dyno; but it felt kind of laggy down low as compared to my 2.3, and he was on 24psi where I'm on 18.
LoL, another friend of mine has a ported Eaton car that I've driven a couple of times and it makes my car feel laggy compared to it. Difference between it and the 2.3 is it runs out of breath where the 2.3 just keeps pulling to red line.

My friend Matt has a 2.2 Kenne Bell Cobra, and the next time I see him, I might hit him up to let us swap cars so I can compare how they feel. Performance wise; his car and mine are kind of close.
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