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Cobra 4v vs Mark8 4v
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:01 am    Post subject: Cobra 4v vs Mark8 4v Reply with quote

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/4-6l-tech/148957-lincoln-mark-viii-swap.html

been researching this due to the fact im told my car has a mark8 motor in it... mark8 and cobra motors are to different worlds apart... mark8 makes less hp (25hp) and has other factor which make it a far less superior motor... kinda disheartening to me
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that sucks man
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That does suck man.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah that really sux. seems to me u have been having nothing but bad experiences with the this mustang and the one you had before it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just wondering, and i didnt click on the link cuz it would take forever on my phone, but is that rwhp? the reason im asking is, didnt the mark 8 only come in automatic? could that be powertrain loss?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The 4.6L DOHC Engine. Many people do not realize that the 1993 Mark VIII was the first all aluminum DOHC 4.6 modular engine produced by Ford. It was the forerunner of the 96-98 Cobra DOHC, which was simply a refined version of the Mark VIII engine, designed for a lighter Mustang with manual transmission. The early Mark 4.6 is rated at 280 HP compared to the later Mark rated at 290 HP. However, don't let the 290 HP of the later Marks fool you. The higher rating was due to an improved exhaust system on the later Lincolns, while the late intake manifold is actually more restrictive and less desirable than the early Mark intake manifold. By comparison, the 96-98 Cobra is rated at 305 HP. This slight power increase was due to an improved intake used on the early Cobra for use with a manual transmission. The early 94-96 Mark uses an intake slightly more restrictive than the 96-98 Cobra intake but less restrictive than the later 97-98 Mark intake. The exhaust cams on both the Mark VIII and early Cobra are identical. The Mark intake cams have about 10 deg less duration with the same lift, to improve low end torque for use with an automatic transmission. With an equal exhaust system, all three engines are very close to each other in output. The Mark uses a different oil pan, with a side reservoir, but either OEM oil pan should be replaced with the much superior Champ pan and baffle.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depending on the year of mark 8 motor its 15-25ho difference altho its setup for more tq due to the heavier mark8s
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why dont you throw it on a dyno and see what you make
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will eventually... we are working on a welcome back dynoday with/for wayne and if we do it i will probally do it there if i can make the day
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok what numbers are expecting?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

after what i have read ext.... probally be lucky on the 290-300 side... maybe worse
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well you could always look at picking up a set of 96-98 cobra cams mach 1 guys pick them up and they see some gains and they are pretty cheap
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and i still have that nitrous kit for sale Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would they pick up cobra cams? the mach1 cams are better than 96-98... i got a set of heads/cams i might be getting of of someone
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but your car has the factory cobra intake rite? so the only difference would be cams, but that's nothin but a thing.
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